It's an unfortunate fact for philosophy buffs that there aren't really any jobs, outside academia, where you get paid to *do philosophy.* There are some occasional exceptions, however. I consider my job at CFAR to fall partly in that category, since our classes often rely on philosophical concepts (like testability, or personal identity) and philosophical thinking strategies (like thought experiments).

And there are a few other philosophers who are also lucky enough to make a living outside academia, using philosophy to make a practical, positive difference in the world. This past Sunday, I joined two of them in an online panel discussion for FtBCon, titled "Philosophy for Everyone:"

My co-panelists are Jess Whittlestone of 80,000 Hours, which is basically applying utilitarian philosophy to real-world career choices; and Dan Fincke, who is a practicing "philosophical counselor." (And moderating is Richard Carrier, blogger, speaker, and published author, who I guess also counts in this category!)

You might enjoy our conversation; topics covered include, "Why do so many people dismiss philosophy, and are they wrong?" and "What philosophy should a beginner *AVOID*?" (Dan and I disagreed on that last one!)